(09-19-18) Prayer Meeting - The Advent Movement Illustrated p.2 - (InmeZ3QV7vE)

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amen for those of us who weren't here last week the pro meeting in a serious accident Buckhorn so if you go to early writings and we've discussed it's composed of three books the third book is spiritual gifts Volume one and approximately 60% through that book we come to the middle write history and it's described in a number of chapters the first one being William Miller first angels message second angels message then the Advent movement Illustrated and the last one is another illustration so we're looking at the fourth of five chapters that deal with the Miller Wright history it's called the Advent movement Illustrated we got through the first two paragraphs last week but we use can read the paragraphs again and just make comment on them before we go on to the third paragraph which would be two for one paragraph one as you're reading this bear in mind that this is the story of the Miller right history and it's another illustration of that history and it's an illustration that often we don't have for those of us who are either attending the classes are watching them you'll see that many of the thoughts and ideas that we've been discussing are actually brought to view in this chapter in a way that you may not have noticed or thought about in the past I saw a number of companies that seem to be bound together by cords many in these companies were in total darkness their eyes were directed downward to the earth and they seemed to be no connection between them and Jesus were scattered through these different companies were persons whose countenances look light and whose eyes were raised to heaven beams of light from Jesus like rays from the Sun were imparted to them an angel bade me look carefully and I saw an angel watching over every one of those who had a ray of light while evil angels surrounding those who were in darkness I heard the voice of an angel cried God and give glory to him for the hour of his judgment has come so you see this progression in this first paragraph and where does it begin beginning the period of darkness so we're in this period of darkness and in this period of darkness what do we see we see companies and these three I've got three these various companies are all bound together I saw a number of companies that seem to be bound together by cords so there's these companies but it seems to say that not only is the company's separate from one another but what about the companies themselves I saw the number of companies that seemed to be bound together by calls so all the companies are actually bound together is that what they say is that how we read that so a number of companies that seem to be bound together by calls so companies themselves are bound together so we've got individual companies or groups and each of those through all those companies are bound together so there's a cord that binds all of these together as a site as a single a unit if you like so there's these separate companies and they're all bound together many of these companies were in total darkness their eyes were directed downward to the earth they seemed to be no connection between them in Jesus so in the time of darkness before the reform line many people in those companies they were looking earthward not heavenward and there was no connection between them in Jesus but scattered through those different companies so there are individuals in those companies who had light it says that they're counting these countenances their faces look like and their eyes were raised to heaven so in this period there are some people who have some kind of like we're okay with that half winded paragraph it says beams of light from Jesus like razor from the Sun were imparted to them an angel made me look carefully and I saw an angel watching over every one of those who had a ray of light while evil angels surrounded those who were in darkness I heard the voice of an angel cry there God give glory to him for the hour of his judgment is come so we discussed last week that this is the arrival of the first angels message beams of light from Jesus like rays from the Sun were imparted to them imparted means what it means to be given something that's not yours as opposed to imputed which means you end up taking possession of something there's a subtle difference between the two so these people are given light from Jesus and when this is happening the angel says look carefully at what this is and what you what you then see is that there's a guardian angel if you like didn't say guardian but there's an angel watching all of those who had this light at the big who's had this ray of light that's been given to them and evil angels are surrounding those in darkness and then she hears the voice of an angel crying the first angels message so the second part of the paragraph he's dealing with the time at the end the imparting of the first angels message in this great light that comes upon God's people what do we see who is this light given to both whoo-hoo-hoo already had their countenances that look like life so it's selective so it's only the people here who had bright faces they're the only ones that are going to receive this light that's going to be imparted here at the time of the end so when this angel comes down with this light from heaven only a select people can actually receive it it's not ad hoc it's premeditated based upon your previous experience paragraph 2 glorious light then rested down upon these companies to enlighten all who would receive it some of those who are in darkness received a light and rejoiced others resisted the light from heaven saying that it was sent to lead them astray the light passed away from them and they were left in darkness those who had received a light from Jesus joyfully cherished the increase of precious life which was shed upon them their faces beamed with holy joy while their gaze was directed upward to Jesus with intense interest and their voices were heard in harmony with the voice of the angel fare God you've great to him for the hour of his judgment has come as they raised this cry I saw those who were in darkness thrusting them with side and with shoulder then many who cherished the sacred light broke the cause which confined them and stood out separated from those companies as they were doing this men belonging to the different companies and revered by them passed through some with pleasing words and others with wrathful looks and threatening gestures and fastened the cords which were weakening these men were constantly saying God is with us we stand in the light we have the truth in quiet who knows who these men were and was told that they were ministers and leading men who had rejected the light themselves and were unwilling that others should receive it so those of us who have been in class we're in chapter 19 now and remember we spoke about the title which is what light through darkness and we saw in class what that actually meant was the light is penetrating through the darkness and if you can accept that as an explanation of what that title means as you can see in this passage really clearly so not only can we see that but the other thing that we saw just from that title and also as we began to look at chapter 19 is that the darkness does not stop at the time of the end yeah in fact what you have borrowing from the language of the chapter if this is an age this age is full of what it's all full of darkness but what happens is at a particular point which we have chosen to call we didn't really choose it we were giving it the time of the end what begins to happen light begins to come from heaven and penetrate this darkness and if you recall that's the model that we developed from the title chapter 19 and that's exactly what's being portrayed here the darkness continues or perpetuates past the time of the end it doesn't stop there in the way that we would normally understand the reformed line glorious light then rested up down upon these companies so here at the time of the end I'll just show it this in limited fashion I'll just do two there's someone who's in darkness and there was someone whose face whose countenance was light I think it says he says the glorious light then rested down upon the company so here at the time of the end this light only rest upon the person who had the bright countenance so the light is only coming here we then move on and then what's happening if these are the companies and in each company there's someone who's bright what does it say the glorious light or a glorious like then rested down upon these companies to enlighten all who would receive it so this light and we're going to see it's the same first angels message is now going to be offered to everybody first it was the select group and now it's everybody so I'm I'm not I guess I'm not asking for it for a cent because he's what we did he's just recapping what we looked at last week but if anybody's knew or anybody's thought about that then please feel free to say whew a grill disagree they're all bound together still and now light is going to be shining on everyone so everyone now has an opportunity whether or not you're in darkness before or not to enlighten all who would receive it so even those in darkness now have an opportunity to receive this glorious light so those people are still in darkness I want us to see that the darkness Tech is past the time of the end and we don't really think about that some of those who were in darkness received this light and rejoiced so now there are other people who are going to receive the light so the numbers begin to increase others who are in darkness resisted the light from heaven saying that it was sent to lead them astray so this message fear God give him glory for the hour of his judgment is come these people who were in darkness already distilling darkness now they're gonna resist this light and what is this light first angels message so they're going to resist it what are they resisting they say this is not true what is not true what message what message is not true don't those things look what is it that's not true it's got speak louder this judgement so this saying that this message that says the hour of his judgment is come has been sent by Satan I presume to lead them astray because they already know about the hour of his judgment or whatever they think that means and this message that has come now which essentially saying the error judgment is come it's here we've already discussed in class what is come means doesn't mean it's present tense it's about to happen we can see we've discussed that they said that this message is untrue it's not a true message the light passed for away from them and they were left in total darkness so they have an opportunity to receive the light once they reject it because they say it's not true then they're left in darkness if we were to draw another spirit prosti quotes we would say that this was the unsealing of the Book of Daniel and the Antillean of the Book of Daniel is what what he's being unsealed I met someone else a message in relation to time Daniel 8:14 that's what gets unsealed so the unsealing of The Book of Daniel is essentially working out 457 and then getting your dates correct the transition from BC to AD and now you have a message built upon time and they're saying all of this is sent to lead them astray those who had received the light from Jesus joyfully cherish the increase of precious light which was shed upon them so what's that the increase of knowledge the reason why these chapters I find really interesting informative that it it's one of the clearest places that you'll see everything that we've taught about reformed lines being brought to view and we never really go to this chapter it's not like we got our reformed line and developed all of that terminology from this chapter because we did and many of us were looking at this at the first time maybe not literally the first time but we haven't looked at it in detail and you see so much of what we already understand clearly laid out both Tyler just read that said words that you might assume is about those who would receive the lights I mean to 40.2 so I'm ready for you pointer I'm just going back over it and in rereading in sections doses received a light from Jesus joyfully cherished the increase of precious light which was shed upon them just use it says the word increase their faces beamed with holy joy while their gaze was directed upward toward Jesus with intense interest so their faces begin to shine with joy and their voices were heard in harmony with the voice of the angel fair God give glory to him for the hour of his judgment is come so now this angel that came down here stop speaking because this light is a symbol of this angels work but now what's happening these people here the dirt are in light what are they doing they now speak in the first angels message so these people are speaking the first angels message Plus whom plus the angel you can see that it says and their voices were heard in harmony with the voice of the angel so that angel is now still speaking and these people are going to say exactly what he's speaking and they're doing it in a harmonious fashion so it goes from a singular angel now to the same angel but multiple people and we said that that was what the empowerment of the message as they raised this cry I saw those who were in darkness thrusting them with side and shoulder then many who cherished a sacred light we'll stop there I saw those who were in darkness thrust them with side and shoulder what's that what's happening now dota radicular message what are they doing they're persecuting them now so they've become not only rejecters of the message they become the enemies of the message because now they're fighting so now we've got the enemy's and I put work so we can see the work of the enemies then many who cherish the sacred light broke the cause which confine them and stood out separated from those companies so remember even in all through these history even though the numbers are increasing those who have lie they're joining the angel they're still connected in those companies with these chords before we just go on and what what we've just read we've got the various companies all join together so what would we think these companies are a symbol of their united but they're still distinct and separate from one another the churches are calling the denominations so these are the various denominations and they're still running through this history so these people who are now accepting the first angels message joining them they still remain in part of the denomination so what's that teaching us in this history from what we know about Miller right history William Miller it's taking a policy that he wouldn't have a sectarian message and there's a carry messages asset the same you can say in a negative way but just to give it in a neutral fashion it's just a group of people who have a distinct belief which is separate from everyone else sometimes people use the word cult so he didn't want to form a sect he didn't want to say the people who believed my message do the judgment hour message will form our own denomination our own separate group he didn't want to do that and you see that built into this story that they remain in the companies all tied up together but by the time you get to hear the work of the enemies then you see that these people are now going to break the chords which confine them and they begin to stand separate from the companies so the way it's worded here it's voluntary they're not being thrust foul or thrown out we saw the thrusting of the enemies here but this was not to get rid of them the thrusting was for what purpose I would suggest to silence them to stop them giving this message it wasn't to get rid of the people it was just to keep them quiet so they wouldn't cause the disturbance now because there's this struggle going on the people leave so we've got these companies and we see that the cord has been broken and these people are standing separate and distinct from them as they were doing this as they separate men belonging to the different companies and revered by them passed through each of the companies so there's a person in each one of these companies who's revered and he's walking around the company and he's going to start doing a work some with pleasing words others with wrathful looks and threatening gestures began to do something and what they began to do was to fasten the cords which were weakening and as they were doing this they were constantly saying God is with us we stand in the light we have the truth so the sentence before said that these people broke the cords and in this sentence it says that the cords were weakening that was tying the people together so these people these revered men are going to take these cords and they're going to tie them back together to keep the people in less anymore escape and these men was constantly saying God is with us we stand in the light we have the truth I inquired who these men were and was told that they were ministers and leading men who had rejected the light themselves and were unwilling that others should receive it and that's as far as we got last week any questions or any thoughts can we see that these ministers and leading men that so they're not just ministers these ministers and lately made it's not accidental what they're doing they've rejected the light themselves and they don't want anyone else to receive it now they may be deluded because they think all of this light is lies but they're really without excuse because to reject something means you have an opportunity to have accepted it it's not some kind of accident or mistake on their part it's premeditated and malicious next paragraph will read the paragraph in holy so this is new we haven't gone to this I saw those who cherish the light looking upward with ardent desire expecting Jesus to come and take them to himself soon a cloud passed over them and their faces were sorrowful I inquired the cause of this cloud and was shown that it was their disappointment the time when they expected their Saviour had passed and Jesus had not come as discouragement settled upon the waiting ones the ministers are leading men who I had before notice rejoiced and all those who had rejected the light triumphed greatly while Satan and his evil angels also exalted what is being described here what event is this right as with 90 so that's the date what's the event versus appointment okay so this is the disappointment I thought those who cherish the light looking up with these ardent desire expecting Jesus to come and take them to himself so as they've separated leading ministers have grouped everyone together and now there's a separation that's happened and the separation that's happened precedes the disappointment can we see that so there's there's a separation before the disappointment and they're expecting to see Jesus but soon a cloud passed over them and their faces were sorrowful I enquired the cause of this cloud and was shown that it was their disappointment the time when they expected their Saviour had passed and Jesus had not come so this is 1843 and this is April the 19th and we call it April the 19th 1844 but according to the Miller I see it's the beginning of the year the first day of the first month of 1844 April the 19th a discouragement settled upon the waiting ones the ministers and leading men whom I had before noticed rejoiced and all those who had rejected the light triumph greatly while Satan in these evil angels also exalted so it takes you on to the other side of the disappointment and it's going to describe that all of these people the leading men and the rejecters what they're going to be it says that they're happy so the rejecters are happy and what do we call that the machi this is when they mocking the people two for one paragraph two then I heard the voice of another angel saying Babylon is fallen is fallen a light shone upon those desponding ones and with ardent desires for his appearing there gained fix their eyes upon Jesus I saw a number of angels conversing with the one who had cried Babylon is fallen and these United with him in the cry behold the bridegroom cometh go ye out to meet him the musical voices of these angels seem to reach everywhere an exceeding bright and glorious light shone around those who had cherished the light which had been imparted to them their faces shone with excellent glory and they United with the Angels in the cry behold the bridegroom cometh as they harmoniously raised the cry among the different companies those who rejected the light pushed them and with angry looks scorned and derided them but angels of God wafted their wings over the persecuted ones while Satan and his angels were seeking to press their darkness around them to lead them to reject the light from heaven so before we comment even at this late stage what's in the last sentence what do we still see we still see the darkness and it's not too late for all these people to go into darkness even at this late stage so you know we might argue that the darkness is lessening but it's as full now in this capable of bringing you down as it was even before the time of the end so these darkness runs all the way through this line so what's being marked here then I heard the voice of another angel saying Babylon is fallen is fallen so you hear a voice and then what do you have after the voice then heard a voice of another angel saying Babylon is fallen fallen a light shone upon those desponding ones ok with that so I'm gonna mark that angel here the arrival of the second angel and what I want us to see is when it discusses wouldn't discuss it's a second angel it first mentions what voice and then what light so voice and light now if we go back to the first paragraph halfway down the paragraph I'll go a little bit before that but scattered through these different companies are we all there we're persons whose countenance these look like in whose eyes were raised to heaven beings of light beings of light from Jesus like rays from the Sun were imparted to them and an angel bade me looked carefully and I saw an angel watching over every one of those who had liked while evil angel surrounded dota in darkness then I heard what voice so when she introduces the subject of the first angel is introduced with light and then a voice and the second angel of voice then alight and I think we can all see that we have a chiasm there just in her the way she's describing that then heard the voice of another angel saying Babylon is fallen is fallen a light shone upon those despondent ones and with ardent desires for his appearing their gain fixed their eyes upon Jesus I saw a number of angels conversing with the one who had cried Babylon is fallen is fallen so this angel says Babylon is fallen is fallen this were ok with that and then what's been introduced more angels and it's angels in the plural so a number of angels speaking with the one who would cry Babylon is fallen and these United with him in the cry behold the bridegroom cometh go ye out to meet him what's that saying before we said here what word did we pick up harmony and what do what word are we picking up here sorry United these angels that are coming down what are they saying behold the bridegroom cometh behold the bridegroom cometh and it says there uniting with him what's happened then with respect to the second angel what's he doing what's yes that was the second angel saying now or how do we read that and these United with him in the cry behold the bridegroom cometh go ye out to meet him has that angel changed his word or are they saying two separate things at the same time they United United with the Angels they'll miss that I saw a number of angels conversing with the one who had cried out in his fallen and these angels United with him in the cry behold the bridegroom cometh maybe that's a part of the Sacramento mm-hmm I'm not trying to be the angel intricacies of it seems to me that he says United any harmony in harmony I think we all agree that they're saying the same thing that one will be a harmonious voice that this angel changes his language from boundaries fallen to behold the bridegroom coming because they're all going to be united in their statement the musical voices that these angels seem to reach everywhere and exceeding bright and glorious lights on around those who will cherish the light which had been imparted to them where was that where was this light that was imparted to them how far did we go back was it here the white shows on this wouldn't it be after the disappointment an exceeding bright light shone around those who were cherished a light which had been imparted to them so when it says the light which had been imparted to them which light is this one I want to know where do we pick up that light - for one paragraph - bro Theodore's picking up - for one paragraph - you go to - for one car up to then I heard the voice of another Aeneas and my German phone when he saw me once yeah as I am showing around those desponding ones so I think it's that - getting picked up this one here not this one here right why well because that's the last light mentioned and these are the people that are being talked about they're not going to go back to the first group of people by the date on the first paragraph that says beads of life from Jesus were imparted to them and the second sentence of the second paragraph is our third sentence that says those who receive the light from Jesus joyfully cherished it and so you have the same two words in this paragraph so they said this is an exceeding bright and glorious light come around those who had cherished the light which had been a party to them it was imparted to them in the beginning so you're saying this light here is going to be party to the people who had received this light so how you reading that for Nathan in the first paragraph that says that this company who received the light had their eyes fixed upwards and in this paragraph that we just read says that they again fix their eyes to Jesus so there was a moment where I guess their eyes were not big Stedman word and maybe if their eyes are not big seven words they won't receive the light and so they look against sister Kathy in the first paragraph it says beams of light which is raves they're not very bright but they're still light and then this paragraph it says exceedingly bright and glorious so they're different an increase all I want us to decide is he says the exceeding bright and glorious light shone around those who had cherished the light which had been a party to them this light which really parted them is that the light that's at the beginning of this paragraph or is that the light that was at the very beginning of this story that's what my question is both Theodora saying it's this light that's just at the beginning of the paragraph and some people I think other people are suggesting that it's the light that was at the beginning brother Tyler it would seem like and I could be wrong with it not being you know romantic brother but it would seem like it'd just be the one that's mentioned two sentences before you know the immediate context of the paragraph that kind of point you got just a light that was just mentioned before but maybe that's why I made it look better way to read that book at least at first glance it seems I might be reading too quickly but I it just seems to be the one from the beginning because in the first paragraph in the middle it says beams of light word beams of light from Jesus like rays from the Sun worm pardon so there's an important in the beginning the paragraph after that says that there's a group of people that cherish this light that was important so there's a cherishing of the light that was imparted and then the paragraph that we're on says those who had cherished the light that had been imparted received this exceeding bright and glorious light but I could typically okay I don't think you've eaten too quickly that's what brother James has said a moment ago he picked up cherished and imparted from the beginning of this chapter this is Sue Ellen I mean people that were there in the beginning and then they carry on and build others and then others join them they might have had has been part of so let me ask the question beginning of this paragraph Babylon is fallen is fallen heard the voice of an angel then it says a light shine upon those responding ones what is that light that's shining upon those disappointed people the second angels message that's what you're trying to ponder agree with that so they're receiving the second angel and then they're going to basically be reinvigorated if I can put it that way with ardent desires they gain fix their eyes upon Jesus then he says I saw a number of angels who came from heaven presumably and spoke with this other angel and they had a new message behold the bridegroom cometh go ye out to meet him and they do this with this cry their voice is reached everywhere and it says an exceeding bright and glorious light run around them around those what is this exceeding bright and glorious light so it's this message behold the bridegroom cometh which we're going to call the midnight cry he says they cried so this is the midnight cry so that's what that light is and he's really showing around those who had cherished a light which had been imparted to them so who's receiving the midnight cry message is it the people who have received the second angel or is it the people who had received the first angel because that would that would allow us to decide this phrase when it says who had cherished the light which had been imparted to them so we still let decided upon the that let's read on their faces shown with excellent glory and they United with the Angels in the cry behold the grot bridegroom cometh as they harmoniously picks up the same were Harmonie raised the cry among the different companies so he seems to be that whatever's happening here you have this united because the two angels are going to unite but now you have harmony and the harmony is the people and the angels one second and this harmony of the human and the divine the human and the angels the people who are participating in that when you go back to this one the harmonious work occurred when the people had accepted this light so why would it not be that the harmonious work would have been those people who had accepted this light not this one because then you'd have that you had exactly the same pattern he's not going stretching all the way back here but it's dealing with this dynamic so I'll hold that point brother Bob I only thought is as we're following this narrative and we're drawing to this picture you have people that received the light from the first angel and then you have a second angel and the people are receiving that light and then we're saying which light is it well you can't receive the message of the second angel unless you received a message to the first angel so I see them all combining and swelling and going forward at any point if people start to reject it then then they're off they're off your hands we don't see anyone going off the pot no jewelry no and it's this thing with the message of the second so I tried to keep them separate separate right we're like in a separate message and I use Wallace to come to a position of unity that this glorious light here is it following this light or is it following this light she's dead if we follow the cherish ones in to 40.2 yes to 40.2 that light whom they chair or which they cherish to cause them to break the cords so they've already had an experience of coming out that Babylon had fallen they left now the popular haven't folded when they broke those calls well they write the cause long before Babylon 4 they had an experience with the first angel which I guess in my mind made it easier for them to accept the second angel and then unite with the angel to say the bridegroom the whole new bridegroom coming just because they had that experience if you're gonna do that then you're gonna say it's this light that's what you just said it sounded to me you're saying all of this is going to help them to get to here which it does but it's some people bug they don they say this helps them to get to this but they could not gotten to that that that's a separate distant point yeah but it's where you want to target your focus on is it best that brings you to this yes or is it you know the breaking of the cause or all of this that brings you for that because the people from the empowerment of the second at the midnight cry they aren't brand new people they're the ones that have come through the whole the whole experience so it has to be well it doesn't have to be but the way I see it is that it's because of the second light but they had to go through the first so the chair in order the light that was cherished by them it connects the whole history previously but the work that's being done is through the second in this particular is the work the light even yes so it's this light here this one right they hang up so great and then it's gonna say something but it doesn't show it in the passage to building the light I think refers to the Second Life because there's a separation taking place at April 19 and if it was referring to the first light then that light would still be covering all those before the separation to take a place over there they would still be receiving the light where is the passage says it'll light shine upon the desponding ones so it's after the separation is date device so the point the brother grain is making is in this scenario the lights on the the dark people and the people whose faces are shining and this one it's very specific only on one group so here's one two groups here it's only in one group so that's the island here it's still the same group the the one group it's the Brittany ya know doesn't that tear that down if you're making a separation between the second group in the first group then you're saying that the first group will cherish it is enjoying I'll just move people by the grain say you can attack it who's the Messi did he just say that this one the lights on everyone then here the light so beyond on one group the treatments successfully navigated because somewhere around here then we take the darkness I think when they try to wrap them back up the people just this remaining darkness we're going to start by to sort of make one point you know we always talk about the first and second angels messages like it's very straightforward but from here to here how many angels it we see from here to here go from here to here which youngly wait there's many up to here one angel and what happens is the people join the angel in harmony when you get to this dynamic it's not the same you have one angel and then you have these multiple angels and I want to remind us it says in the passage clearly that these angels unite with this one therefore these angels are not the second angel then over and over again in our message we teach just like don't worry about any of that you just got a tui here we call it the empowerment of the second and that may be a correct term but I want is to know that it's not the same dynamic is here when we've got the empowerment of the first because you've already got a single ranging all the way through here here you've got two groups of angels you've got a single Ranger than these other angels and then with these other angels then the human people join with them so you've got three groups here two groups of angels in hot-end unity and the human agent in ha money so whatever that means I want us to see that often the way we teach our reformed line we'll just have the first angels message and then we'll do the second angels message it's not quite correct because actually you've got the second plus other angels we'll stop there times pressing on five minutes do it does anybody have any prayer requests